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Naming the god and the theological fight, but is linguistic!

July 22, 2009

Naming the god and the theological fight, but it is only linguistic!

Vedaprakash

In the “Year of Darwin”[1], as scientists have started discussing about the evolution of man, language etc., ordinary man has also started thinking in the same lines about the connected factors, as they are more concerned about them than the professors, experts and others, who conduct “conferences” inside air-conditioned halls with all facilities[2], whereas, they have to worry about Dhal selling at Rs. 100/ kg, rice Rs.100 / kg and so on. The Dhal and rice families never fool man, but the man fool man by his skill of economics, statistics, inflation, negative-inflation[3], but still prices going up!  So also, our Sanskrit imported Professors[4] start talking about “phylogeny vs epigenesist”, “origin of language” etc. in India!

The evolution and / or creation of man are connected with the concept of god and naming the god. Evolution might oppose god, but still “god” is denied there, however, without naming. Naming god as per the existing literature or the so-called “revealed books” of the “chosen” people[5] with such “books” (al-kithabiya) has been semantics coupled with theological syntax.

Man started pronouncing or rather naming the god as follows, according to his “sound” producing capabilities:

  • El-eli-ela-elah-elahi-elohim-
  • El-elah-elohim-elahi-allah
  • l-la-lah-lahi-laha [when this is combined with al-lah, it becomes allaha]
  • ha-aha-aya-hayah-yhwh [here, “l” sound is avoided]
  • m-am-um-iam [without opening mouth]-om-ohm [opening mouth][6]

YHWH and ALM: Scholars, theologians and other experts confess that they do not know how these two words or expressions have come, how to pronounce or what is the meaning. As for as ALM is concerned, Quranic experts claim that many ayats start with ALM implying Alif-lam-mim[7], but none knows its meaning. Thus, many claims are made by the biblical and quaranic scholars and pundits. The first name that God told Moses about was Hayah and it is a Hebrew word meaning I AM. The second name that God told Moses about was YHWH and it is also a Hebrew word for which only four consonants are used without any vowels. Thus, god only knows what YHWH means, or how is has to be pronounced.

Lord, LORD, God, GOD, LORD-GOD: However, the King James Version translates YHWH as “LORD” — all in capital letters and the practice of representing YHWH by “LORD” is done in many translations, including but not limited to the KJV, NKJV, NIV, and NAS[8]. Thus, LORD represents God’s name, YHWH, whereas “Lord” represents God’s, adonay. As they have difficulty or do not know how to translate, they may still translate “adonay YHWH” as “the Lord LORD,” Elohim is translated as God / god which means “mighty ones.” They know El (God in Hebrew), Eli (Singular), Elohim (Plural), Eloi (Aramic), Ilahi, elahi etc., denote only GOD, but mentioned as differently in the context.

The word used

Meaning

How many times appears

example

“EL” Mighty One

225

Gen. 14:20, “Blessed be the Most High EL”.
“YHVH” GOD’s Personal Name, not to be pronounced or not known

248

Is. 40:10,   “The Lord YHVH will come with a strong hand.”
“Tzur” A Rock

1

lsa. 44:8, “Yes, there is no Tzur,   I know not any.”.
“Elah” An object of Worship[9]

88

Ezra 5:11, “We are the servants of Elah of heaven”.
“Elohim” Object of Worship

2222

Plural used  in Hebrew to denote plenitude of might
.  “EL” Mighty One

225

. Gen. 14:20, “Blessed be the Most High EL”. Gen. 1:1,   “In the beginning Elohim created.”
“Eloah” An object of Worship

55

Deut. 32:17,  “They sacrificed unto devils, not to Eloah”.
“Theos” Object of Worship (in Greek)

1274

Matt. 1:23,  “They will call Him (the Messiah)  Emmanuel,  a Name which means ‘Theos is with us’ “.

God, existence of God, God knowing other God: In Bible, the following are quoted as the word of God (Exodus: 20:2-5):

  • I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
  • Do not have any other gods before me.
  • You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
  • You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,

Thus, the doubt of God thinking about, warning about other God is intriguing and interesting to note [Ontogeny]. If one God is the God, then, that God cannot think of another God existing on the earth and that earth too, in fact creation of that God only. Therefore, where is the question of anything existing below the earth or above in the heaven? Thus, one God talking about the exigencies of existence of other Gods proves that that God knew the existence of other Gods and therefore, he was “jealous God” as declared himself!

Ontogenesis, phylogenesis and epigenesis of God: Thus, it is quite evident that the scriptures mentioned or the literature of the people mentioned talk about the existence of more than one God in the sense, that the “jealous God” is so jealous about other God. Thus, the evolution or creation of the concept of God is closely related to the speech or language of the people evolved or created. If the sounds came out represented words and words formed into meaningful sentences and such sentences with all semantics and linguistic laws made them into identifiable language, and that language related to one particular people, as they spoke and thus, the language speaking people with that particular literature could be identified easily. As now, evolution requires male and female, necessarily, there has to be a family for god. As there have been “Son of God” [generally understood as Jesus, the son of Mary], “daughters of Allah” [al-Manat, al-Uzza and al-Lat] etc, it is evident that progeny of god is also implied.

Man, sex, language and mixing of races and languages[10]: Monogenetic or autogenetic creation of humanity has been divine and thus such things cannot take place. Only one Man can create woman[11] and only one Woman can create Man[12] and none can do such things thereafter. Thus, “the babel of tower” confronts the theologians, who make the deployment of linguists, psychologists, genetic experts and others come to rescue to come out with the concepts of ontogeny, phylogeny and epigeny in the creation of languages. Heterogenetics and variety of species, different languages etc., question the monogeny, autogeny, immaculate conception etc[13]. Thus, homosexuality confronts such theologians and scientific experts. However, in flora and fauna, there have been species that produce on their own. Believing in one makes to bewilder at times about the existence of more than one. Accepting more than one has no problem in considering one or the only one also without any difficulty. But, knowingly the existence of more than one, if one claims that it is only one and there is no one other than it etc., makes not only mathematics but also theology complicated. However, monists, monotheists and such other “only one” / “The One” hypothesists and theorists confront with others.

Vedaprakash

21-07-2009


[1] The year 2009 is the bicentennial of Darwin’s birthday, and sesquicentennial of publication of his book “The Origin of Species”.  http://darwin-year-2009.org/

However, the Indians never bother about Indian literature, where thousands of books have been written and available since c.3500 BCE etc., but, they are not worried about such 35 century year, 30 century year…….celebrations of the poet, astronomer etc.

[2] As in Chennai, we used to attend such conferences held in Five-star Hotels, where the elite and rich would come in BMWs and lecture about “Anatomy of poverty” and so on!

[3] The moment Chidambaram was made HM instead of FM, all have changed upside down or going reverse etc. in India. Note, now Kasab has started confessing differently.

[4] Note the irony, our Sanskrit Pundits and others have to listen to such “species” (with all due respects to Darwin), who descended here from heavens!

[5] In that way, other then the “chosen people”, the heathen / kafirs etc., have no redemption without the acceptance of Christ or Allah. The Afganisthanis have already started demanding Jizya from Kafirs.

[6] Of course, our Christian friends of expertise would give different interpretation about such “sounds”!

[7] Refer to Hussian Mohammed Pikthall’s translation of Quran for more details.

[8] Now, remember about Iravatham Mahadevan’s assertion about Authorized Version etc. Anyway, our Wales Professor of Sanksrit at Harvard University, USA has not still sent his papers and his friend IM has ben keeping quite!

Dr. Michael Witzel, Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University (USA), will deliver a set of three conferences in India. A very proper event in the year of the commemoration of Charles Darwin (1809-1882), the famous scientist who was opposed by the Christian church for so long time.

http://asiatica.org/news/2009/06/26/conferences-in-india/

[9] Here, also there would be debate about “worship” and “veneration” of Mary, Joseph, Jesus, Christ, Allah, Mohammed etc., as the respective believers would give different interpretation.

[10] Vedaprakash, Honing Celina, Yogic Ramdev, Worrying Christians and Gleeful Gays, dated 19-07-2009 posted in different forums.

[11] As Adam created Eve [autogenetic].

[12] As Mary begot Jesus [autogenetic ignoring Joseph or epigenetic with the impregnation of the Holy Spirit].

[13] So in the year of Darwin, the battalion of Holy Warriors has started trotting global countries taking about such things and educates the believers properly.

Ontogeny, Phylogeny and Epigeny: Or the revival of Race, racism and Racialism?

July 12, 2009

Ontogeny, Phylogeny and Epigeny:

Or the revival of Race, racism and Racialism?

Acknowledgement: I am an independent researcher and freelancer and I get data and information from others and from which applying thinking processes, I am writing based on what I have understood. Therefore, naturally, but for interpretation, I cannot claim anything of my own in forming any new hypothesis, theory or established law, so that it could be applicable. Indian tradition has been to acknowledge the source of knowledge and wisdom and that is why in every text, it is submitted that so-and-so told this to so-and-so and such knowledge system has come to me and I am passing on to the progeny for the betterment[1]. This type of acknowledging the source research methodology is strikingly same in the ancient Sanskrit and Tamil literature[2] and therefore, the readers could find such concurrence, confluence and continuance of tradition, heritage, culture and civilization of India. Thus, in the stratum and continuum of languages in spite of their Aryan-Dravidian dichotomy, they fall in the same phylum without any epigenetic variance.

However, the non-Indian methodology has been to claim “everything is mine” attitude. And not only that, the dangerous practice has been borrowing, copying or even carrying out complete plagiarism, they destroyed the sources to deny the credit to the original people. This has happened many times in Indian history[3].

I know that under the guise of scientific principles, we are dealing with pseudo-scientific pursuits that were condemned and consigned to dustbins some 60 years ago[4]. The expressions – anthropology, ethnology, philology, linguistics, etymology, lexicography, morphology, brachycephalic / mesocephalic / dolicocephalic indices, phrenology, prognathism, etc., and the connected concepts including blood theory (blue blood, plebeian blood), endogamy, exogamy, eugenics, miscegenation, cross-breeding, are not at all new for any Indologist, serious researcher or Sanskrit student in India or elsewhere[5]. However, it is clear that some scholars, group of pundits or groups of chosen experts have decided to revive such race, racial and racialist hypotheses and theories to divide people, create misunderstanding and pit people against each other for conflicts. I am afraid to note that the Oxford dictionaries themselves started giving different meanings, as I have been consciously using the dictionaries used by family of four generations[6].

Introduction: It is not a confused noise or noises made by a number of voices[7] or any divine or evolutionary force made the owners of voices or the noise-producers to get confused the languages[8] during their hypothesis building processes. A group of inter-disciplinary scholars have joined together and revived the 100-150 years old linguistics, philology, race theories based on blood etc., almost in the same terminology with certain changes under the guise of modern and scientific data. When the god-believing racists and racialists joined ontology, teleology, autology, autogenesis, homogenesis, heterogenesis and such other expressions were also used. Thus, besides the same expressions like etymology, morphology, phonology, phonetics, etc., ontogeny, phylogeny, epigeny and other expressions are used. They are discussed.

Ontogenesis: In biological connotation onto + genesis, it is nothing but nature + genesis, i,e, naturally producing or produced, thus, explained as development of an individual organism or anatomical or behavioural feature from the earlier stage to maturity.

Thus, when it is borrowed, transported and transformed to linguistic studies,  it is the development of a language or a language group produced from people with specific individual organism or anatomical or behavioural feature from the earlier stage to maturity. Ontogenesis is the development of a language or a language group produced from people with specific individual organism or anatomical or behavioural feature from the earlier stage to maturity.

Ontogeny deals with ontogenesis. Here, the meaning of ontology has to be analyzed in the context, as it differs from time to time as used by the westerners themselves. The ontological argument was used by the Archbishop Anselm of England and Descartes, the French philosopher to prove the existence of God. According to this argument, the very subjective notion of God, implanted in our minds by God Himself, is enough to justify God’s objective existence. Thus, they related it to mind or something subjective emanating from the mind and thinking. Ontology was defined as the department of metaphysics concerned with the essence of things or being in the abstract[9](1934). However, now the meaning of ontology has been “the branch of metaphysics concerned with the nature of being[10] (1999).

Phylogenesis: Phylum + genesis = class + origin and thus, again, in biology, phylogenesis is the evolutionary development and classification of species or group of organism [The Greek phule means race or tribe].

Phylum: The Greek etymology of Phylum connotes several meanings in the context and as well as how they are used to get familiarized and understood.

From the different connotation of Phul / pul, and its combination, it is known that phylum is the race, class, division, family originating from a particular phallic or phullon or combination thereof[11]. Phuletes = tribes-man

Phullon = leaf, female sexual organ

Phulon, = race,

phule = tribe

pule = gate

puloros = gate keeper

phusallis = bladder

phallic = male sexual organ

Thus, its meaning is given as follows:

  1. Zoology: It is a principal taxonomic category that ranks above class and below kingdom, equivalent to the division in botany.
  1. Linguistics: It is a group of languages related to each other class closely than those forming a family.

Phylogeny: Generally, it is explained as the branch of biology concerned with phylogenesis. Phylogenesis is the evolutionary development and classification of a species or group of organism. Here, the meaning of phylum as explained has to be taken into consideration carefully.

Thus, again importing into linguistics, it is the evolutionary development and classification of a language of group of languages spoken by or still being spoken by certain people or group of people. Phylogenesis is the evolutionary development and classification of a language of group of languages spoken by or still being spoken by certain people or group of people.

Epigeny: epi + geny = upon / above forming / producing / originating, i.e, something is created / produced / originated upon/ above another.

Epigenesis: In biology, it is progressive development of an embryo from an undifferentiated egg-cell.

Thus, it is progressive development of a language or group of languages spoken by a group of people of groups of people.

However, epigenetic has different connotations as follows:

  1. Biology: resulting from external factor rather than genetic influences.
  1. Biology: of or relating to epigenesis.
  1. Geology: formed later than the surrounding or underlying rocks.

So extending to incorporate such concept, it is metamorphoses to the following exigencies:

  1. External factor: It is a process of progressive development of a language or group of languages spoken by a group of people of groups of people resulting from external factor
  1. Genetic influence: It is a process of progressive development of a language or group of languages spoken by a group of people of groups of people resulting genetic influences.
  1. Based on others: It is a process of progressive development of a language or group of languages spoken by a group of people of groups of people formed later than the surrounding or underlying linguistic influences.

Incidentally the OED (1934) defines[12], “epigenesis as the formation of organic germ as a new product; theory of epigenesist, that the germ is brought into existence, not merely developed, in process of reproduction”.

Hypogeny, hypogenesis, hypogenetic processes: In contrast to epigeny, epigenesist and epigenetic processes proposed, discussed and debated, the hypogeny, hypogenesis, hypogenetic processes should also be considered in the case of language and language origins.

Autogeny, monogeny and heterogeny: In this context, the following processes should also be considered:

Autogeny: auto + geny = generated itself, arising from within or forming a thing itself and so on. Accordingly, the meanings of autogenous, autogenesis, autogenetic etc., should be construed and applied.

Monogeny: mono + geny = generated, produced or created from only one source / place. Accordingly, the meanings of monogenous, monogenesis, monogenetic etc., should be construed and applied.

Heterogeny: hetero + geny = generated, produced or created from more than one place or many places. Accordingly, the meanings of heterogenous, heterogenesis, hetrogenetic etc., should be construed and applied.

As pointed, out these expressions have not been new or something coined now, as they were used consciously with purpose and purport to convey race, racial and racialist hypotheses and theories using pseudo-scientific concepts and precepts. Such race, racist and racialist hypotheses and theories led to the two world wars killing millions of people.

Michael Witzel conferences 2009

Witzel, Darwin and Bible:  The Asiatic Association[13] has declared the so-called “conferences” of Michael Wizel: “Dr. Michael Witzel, Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University (USA), will deliver a set of three conferences in India. A very proper event in the year of the commemoration of Charles Darwin (1800-1882), the famous scientist who was opposed by the Christian church for so long time. Prof. Witzel is well known scientist whose thesis on the script of the Indus Valley Civilization raised a lively debate among the radical Hindus. This is the calendar of his lectures:

  • 8 July 2009. The Madras Sanskrit College, Chennai organized by Indus Research Centre, Roja Muthaiah Research Library (Jubliee lectures).
  • 9 July 2009. Nehru Memorial Library, or Jawaharlal Nehru Institute of Advanced Study, New Delhi.
  • 10 July 2009. India International Centre, New Delhi.”
  • Dr. Michael Witzel, Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University (USA), will deliver a set of three conferences in India.

Delivering set of conferences has been the tradition of the Christians and later they declare that they had such conferences with the heathens and won them through debates.

  • A very proper event in the year of the commemoration of Charles Darwin (1800-1882), the famous scientist who was opposed by the Christian church for so long time.

One should note the language used here as such conferences have been to commemorate Darwin who was opposed by the Church or the church that opposed Darwin! If the church opposed Darwin, it is intriguing to note that Wizel to carryout his linguistic phylogenetic trees planting in India.

  • Prof. Witzel is well known scientist whose thesis on the script of the Indus Valley Civilization raised a lively debate among the radical Hindus.

How the website uses such offending expression? Why his intellectual hypothesis should have raised “a lively debate”? Has he been a rabble-rouser then? The radical Hindus include all types so-called Hindutvawadis – fundamental fanatics, extreme activists and die-hard militants. That is why he was given police protection that equaled or exceeded the strength of audience! Ironically, among the “radical Hindus” who attended have been Iravatham Mahadevan, N. Mahalingam, Sankaranarayanan, Ramakrishnan, Prof. Dass, and many others. In fact, I. Mahadevan openly declared that he has fundamental difference with Witzel, about his assertion that IVC script does not have any language system at all.

  • This is the calendar of his lectures

However, the calendar and program changed, covered up and even perhaps kept secret, because of security reasons!

The communal, parochial and fundamental psyche of the accusers: About Michael Witzel, many allegations and accusations have been made[14]. His friends and colleagues like Steve Farmer and others could support and carry out propaganda blaming Indians as Hinduvawadis, right-wing ideologists and so on, but they themselves have exhibited more such characteristics and qualities by vomiting out foul language, which they cannot claim[15], “since god created the world through the power of language” (Genesis 1:28 of Bible), “we are also using”. When Steve pounces upon Kanchan Gupta ferociously, he should eat his own words what he is writing about others. Without arguing honestly or intellectually, the same Steve Farmer prevented and blocked my postings in his Indo-Eurosian_research@yahoogroups.com and ran away[16]. His another collaborator – Francesco Brighenti also used to adopt the same tactics. Now, Michael Witzel has done the same thing in India. Without answering, he simply moved away from place to place.  If Steve could use expressions like “right-wing”, “closely associated with Hindutva right”, and http://asiatica.org could use “Hindu radicals[17] etc., they could be also easily identified and held responsible for such cognizable writings, speech and acts. Therefore, the accusers themselves now stand accused for their blatant exhibited qualities. Under the cover of “Wales Sanskrit Professor”, “Harvard University” etc., these learned scholars have been blaspheming and denigrating Indians and definitely such attitude is unbecoming of the status, they have. In deed, the Chennai “Conferences” has exposed the “scholarship” of “Wales Sanskrit Professor” at “Harvard University, USA”. Though, the Professor has given his visiting cards to the questioner[18], he has not so far sent his papers or clarified the questions raised in front of selected Sanskrit professors, Pundits and scholars of Chennai and Madras University.

Taking Darwin to beat Darwin to with-hold the babel of tower: In his presentation at “Darwin” conference, he began with a brief overview of opinions about the origin of human language and the controversial question of Neanderthal speech. Quickly moving from the language of the ‘African Eve’ to the specific ones of the subcontinent, a brief overview is given of the prehistoric and current South Asian language families as well as their development over the past c. 5000 years. The equivalents of phylogeny and epigenetics in linguistics are then dealt with, that is, the successful (Darwinian style) phylogenetic reconstruction of language families (as ‘trees’), which is interfered by the separate wave-like spread of certain features across linguistic boundaries, even across language families. A combination of both features lead to the emergence of the current South Asian linguistic area (sprachbund). This development has made the structure of Indo-Aryan, Dravidian or Munda similar to each other but it could not eliminate most of their individual characteristics.

  • Thus, just like “liberation theology”, parallel “Darwin model” is proposed to have a Black Jehovah, Black Mary, Black Joseph and of course a Black Jesus, Black Christ and then merging to Black Jesus Christ!
  • As Marxists already proposed to accept the invasion but stick to migration, the migration or movement of language-speaking people were considered.
  • He was also using the expression “Father Heaven[19] instead of the usual “Father” in his linguistic interpretation to show the “unity” of Indo-Aryan language group.
  • Now, the migration, settlement, stratification and solidification of language stratums would be identified to interpret language continuum as para-X, Pro-X, epi-X, hypo-X, hybrid-X , where X could be any language as hypothesized.

Refutation of such hypothesized ideology: Formation of languages based on phylogenetic and epigenetic hypotheses are refuted as follows:

1.  The monogenic origin of humanity refutes the anthropological studies and heterogenic origins question the linguistic studies that hold that there has been one first language from which all other languages evolved. However, both have been the creation of ontological exercises according to the hidden theological concepts.

 

2. Chronologically, it was accepted that Sanskrit was the ancient language and then, it was mentioned as Indo-Germanic languages of which Sanskrit was the ancient language. Then, from “Germano-centric”, it was converted to “Euro-centric” to name Indo-Indo-Aryan and then Indo-European.

3. Whatever, the phylogenetic and epigenetic processes and movements experimenting with the languages of chimpanzees and neandarthals, Ramaapithacus always confronted others.

4. With the geological, economic and other factors, people move, migrate and settle and accordingly not only the material stratification, but also the ontological stratification.

5. But as the stratigraphical pattern at a particular place and time could not be correlated and corresponded with any other pattern on the earth in a continent, country or at the same site say 100 metres away, any attempt of asserting that the pattern could have happened exactly like this is quite incorrect.

6. As horizontal and vertical excavations have not been done even at the historical sites to tell exactly what happened in all histories of the ancient civilizations, in the ontological, phylogenetical and epigenetic stratums, no such vertical or horizontal excavations could be conducted to analyze and come to any specific conditions.

7. We have to wait and see how many chimpanzees and Neanderthal men are converting into Rigvedic phyla to learn and speak Sanskrit that is not Paninian or Kalidasa!

Alan Bersin, and michael witzel

Fund-raising Witzel in India and global economic meltdown: Really, India has become so rich that it could fund to Wales Professor of Sanskrit at Harvard University! So far India hired lascars and ships to the Europeans, supplied slaves to European farms, skilled workers to their factories, etc., from 1600 to 1900, but now skilled mental workers of both soft and hard categories are sent. Thanks to the epigenetic processes instead of phylogenetics!

One American friend clarifies, “I knew that Witzel was in financial difficulty and that Harvard was unhappy with his antics. Note that Alan Bersin who was California Education Secretary at the time Witzel launched his campaign was also on the Board of Overseers of the Harvard Corporation (which owns Harvard University). The main function of the Board is fund raising. So Witzel must have promised Bersin that his California campaign would raise funds for Harvard, especially for the beleagured Sanskrit Department which Witzel had made a mess of when he was Chairman. (Please see attachment.) He tried to raise funds for himself also. He advertised his services in Pakistan (in the Internet version of The Dawn) as an anti-Hindu lobbyist. Note that most years Witzel teaches summer courses in elementary Sanskrit that does not go much beyond teaching the Devanagari script. His campaign in India this summer suggests (my guess only) that the Sanskrit Department has no money for summer programs. This could be a reason that he is India. Harvard has lost nearly $8 billion in the financial meltdown or nearly 30% of its assets. It has postponed some important projects including a new science center in Boston. The last thing the Harvard administaration wants or needs is a madcap like Witzel going around antagonizing an affluent and highly educated community like Americans of Indian origin.

As the “white-man’s burden” increased politically and economically, and they wanted to exploit the coloured and blacks some 200 years back and now also they try to exploit accordingly. However, the Whites have Yellowphobia and Hindophobia and thus to check, counter and contain such surges, they would apply the traditional middle-east affiliation against the Chinese and Indians by creating problems then and there. Incidentally, when Witzel has been in India, Indians get news that –

  • China is laying road through POK to reach out poet in the Arabian Sea.
  • However, converted Chinese Mohammedans started rioting killing non-Mohammedans there in the Chinese province.
  • A Chinse ship is coming to anchor at Calicut port.
  • Indians are killed Afganishtan, as the Taliban attacked kafiri-workshops.
  • US President is visiting African countries as a Black with much publicity given.

Thus, the Micheal mania is overshadowed by this Micheal mania and the poor Hindu radicals were simply carried away by such manias.

Vedaprakash

12-07-2009


[1] The western scholars have always ignored and rejected such acknowledgement as myth, mythological and legends, instead of appreciating such research methodology recorded.

[2] In the ancient extant Tamil text, the author has acknowledge at many places that these findings mentioned were told by my predecessors, my forefathers, my elders, my teachers and so on with the characteristic expressions – enbanar pulavar (the well learned said), mozhimanar pulavar (the learned told), pulan nangunartha pulamaiyor (the experts who know about the senses), ………….and so on.

[3] Now the modern subjects are nothing but Indian subjects masqueraded and metamorphosed with English names formed out of Greek and Latin bastardized terminology.

The European missionaries and Company merchants acted as industrial spies and undercover agents of scientists smuggled out many manuscripts out of India and developed their scientific and technical ideas out of them.

[4] The UN passed resolutions condemning the race hypotheses and theories and declased that the word “race” should not be used. However, scholars have started using ehtncity, ethnos etc., in the same connotation.

[5] Ruth Benedict, Race, Science and Politics, New York, 1941.

F. M. Ashley Montagu, Man’s Most Dangerous Myth – The Fallacy of Race, New York, 1942.

W. Earl Count, This is race – An Anthology of Selected from the International Literature on the Races of Man, New York, 1950.

Alan Burns, Colour Prejudice, London, 1948.

[6] 1911 (H. W. Fowler), 1934 (H. G. Le M) – with supplement, 1978 (F. G and  H W. Fowler), 1999 (edited by Judy Pearsall) editions of the Oxford University

[7] Babel = a confused noise made by a number of voices.

[8] Tower of Babel according to western / Christian mythology the jealous tribal god confused the languages of the builders.

[9] OED (1934), p.796.

[10] OED (1999), p. 996

[11] Having understood this meaning, perhaps, the westerners may not criticize the so-called “phallic-worship”!

[12] OED (1934), p.381

[13] http://asiatica.org/news/2009/26/conferences/

[14] Refer to the reports and write-ups of Radha Rajan, Haran and others appearing in different websites.

[15] Steve Farmer, his Ph.D thesis, p.351. http://sabha.info/docs/misc/aif/indologistsa.html

In fact, the full text of his Ph.D thesis should be made public to understand his mind. Of course, here also, we can verify as to whether ontology is consistent with phylogeny or epigeny.

[16] Steve Farmer and his friends without knowing any fundamentals of Tamil were discussing about the dating of “Sangam literature”, when I pointed out, they could not relish.

I Have posted the entire correspondence in Hinducivilization@yahoogroup.com

[17] http://asiatica.org/news/2009/26/conferences/

[18] K. V. Ramakrishna Rao confirms that he has not yet received the papes from Prof Michael Witzel, as he promised before the learned audiences.

[19] It comes in the usual prayer of Catholics, where they invoke the Trinity including “Father in Heaven” along with “the Son and the Holy Spirit”.